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Just because I slip up once, or multiple times, does not mean that I am required to continue the permissive, unhealthy behavior. I thought things would change they dont. Being married to this kind of person has got to be the most tiring thing in the world. Hes a gigolo too, pretty sure of it.I need him out of here and dont know how to be more blunt. . Still havent done anything legal Im nearly positive he never will (but oh, I was already wrong once! I knew something was wrong, but I was so accustomed to allowing people to disregard and abuse me that I did give it the attention it deserved. Only through Gods grace can I continually forgive him over and over. It is ironic but the more you tell these people you care and are concerned about him the more likely they will be to side with you. The first time my son met him he said that man is bipolar and several other people said that about him. Im doing it with my friend of five years. As long as we feel the need for validation from them, we are still in that trap of hoping for real emotions and caring from these people, and there is nonejust more manipulation for their own gratification. The kids are terrified of him due to the many dangerous situations he put them in (drIving drunk, putting an apple on their head and prentending to throw an apple at their heads, forgetting one of the kids when he would leave to go get more beer, exposing them to porn, girlfriends jewelry, etc., etc.). Its very interesting to hear the different experiences people have had. Im human. Many of them have legal advocates that help you with your situation. When I started realizing it all , I was panicking , feeling trapped each passing moment . DA from what was explained to me, a true narcissist does not know how to lovehe knows how to survive on his narcissistic supplywhich is youuntil youre not. You cannot judge a persons personal choices involving themselves and their body by how it makes you feel, that is your responsibility. After a while and much anger being vented by both sides we tried to work on it and I immediately thought I had reacted badly and apologized for my slighted messages. Any suggestion would be great I asked, if you could come to where I was living so I could still do some packing and getting the move ready. Do not make it a call for help for yourself or they may suspect you are trying to manipulate them. Im here to look for tools, connect with people with common problems, AND offer my unique story as well. 29 years has taken its toll, it is not easy at all trying to get mentally healthy myself, while protecting myself from further hurt from my husband. Are you familiar with co-dependence? Ive learned from reading all of these articles that screaming for him to hear me, complaining he doesnt listen, etc. It will serve as a reminder that you too are in control of things. Ohhh my God- I wish I had found this website and this article in the early stages of my marriage. When Matt has consequences, he uses the boys against me. I love him and I am concerned for him. I dont want my children to be like him. Now that I decided that I want him in my life . What there is is putdowns, anger, blaming, no empathy, selfishness, baiting me to get me drawn into arguments, and lack of accountability in the small things in life such as chores or simply doing what he has said he will do in a million small ways. hi Kim I just read Back from the looking glass, I cannot wait to get a plan going and start this long journey. I only realized what narcissism is about when my current boyfriend told me he was a narcissist , I didnt get it at first. The child is held accountable and encouraged to recognize and understand a feeling . It is the unhealthy part of their thinking. My experience is that this requires a lot of work on yourself to find emotional balance and peace of mind that they cannot reach, whilst you respond to their behaviour gently but firmly. Say nothing let him think he right since he is gonna thinks he is right anyway. This is possibly the most important thing you can do as you learn how to be the asshole when co-parenting with a borderline or narcissist. 11) Since my son was going to eventually get my old car and your car was part of the bankruptcy and they were going to take it, I suggested that I buy a new car 10 month earlier than I needed too. etcthen says he is not violent. It just goes to show that there are no single answers. He puts on quite a show at times. Hey Welcome Cheryl and good job surviving the hell you were raised in, it is tough when we end up having to parent ourselves. They walk around thinking they look perfect together and embrace the feeling of getting noticed. I do feel very disappointed in him because this is our second go-around and this time marriage happened. Everything is always my fault, and he never takes responsibility for hurtful actions. I have to ask them what he says to them to unskrew the lies and manipulation put on them. Its so hard to accept that it was no more than a performance. Never be afraid of the consequences they (Nar) will have to suffer for their own faulty decisions, it will only help them. I married late in life and was only married 1 yr 4 mos when he leftand am still missing him and coming to terms with thisthe guy I married just doesnt seem to exist and whoever he is now doesnt want me in his life or to be in mine. God bless you all. I work on myself to cope with that . Thanks Kim. Loss of supply - crying for themselves because they've lost a valuable source of supply. Your husband sounds EXACTLY like mine was. You will find loads of advice and support in the articles here and also my ebooks (-: Thank you for your article. It is not a control issue, but a stress reliever for your soul. The best thing you can do is work on your own codependence. Holding him accountable for mistakes. I was not a good wife, or mother, so on etc. Please! Should I not be upset? It would have saved me a lot of heartache and loss. I simply say thank you for the suggestion,but I got this. I am only responsible for my self. He was very serious about making the change. I pray my own daughter never marry a man like. July 16, 2020. Like emotional teenagers, narcissists enjoy attention. I think the main thing is to BELIEVE and KNOW that you are not to blame for his bad moods and temper, whatever he says. I fell in love with what I thought it was a good sense of self, while I was searching for mine. Ironic, isnt it, how many stories there are and yet in the midst of such circumstances we can feel so isolated. When you want to hold sway with someone (not only a person with narcissistic tendencies) the equation works something like this . 1)- i feel soo normal after reading all this knowing that there are other people like me, knowing why i have become a horrible woman who is vehemently cursing her husband and getting relief from it. They are perfect for him.his puppets. Im sure that your ideas will help many people. This can be extremely frustrating and took me a long time to learn how to deal with and I want to share what I have learned about dealing with this today. Play as nice as you can and de escalate the fight and let the heat come down on him from police. Ive allowed my husband to twist and manipulate, not be held accountable for most of it. They are give and give. Everything is subtle. Perhaps it is my personality, or my relationship with God, but I still believe everyone deserves love, and can finally see this man as woundedI do love him still with all my heart, and want to help without losing my soul in the process. It will be a long road but I have faith. . They dont have to know the details but soak yourself in alot of love. Despite the difficulties of this life, I love my husband and do not want to leave him. Hi Ann, I certainly agree with Kim. For all this time I have been working on myself, attending classes through the church (designed for couples, but they are letting me go by myself)and I (unlike him) remember the good timeshe COULD be really, really sweetand my soul still loves him (its the only way I know how to describe it as it takes me out of the very human/ego part of me that is pissed as hell at the childish, immoral behavior)..it also lets me not put the blame on myself (which I bought into, and still do some days, like today). But I cannot pretend things r ok when I am not seeing them ok. And since the consequences were triggered by events, there was no means for understanding through close communication. Thanks Kim. I appreciate your indepth understanding, and drive to help others. I thought at first that he was as frightened as I was, but now I feel he is angry I lived. She calls him for everything, and hes always going to her house and hanging out with her. lets talk about his controlling ability. Im going out for a sandwich and coffee. Acter admitting this fi me durung an alcohil binge,he latdr denied. They project those feelings on to others and are not capable of empathy. They bring their objective guidance, support and validation to your healing. She has a cookie business, that he controls of course. The love-bombing stage is over. I am still married and my husband and i are now really good friends so that had a happy ending. along with the narcissist's makeup - helps us to bypass obstacles when dealing with. I still love this man. I also bought the codependency book. Narcissists have a very low tolerance for anyone questioning or debating them. I dont understand why someone that doesnt have that connection stays, there are other fish in the sea you can find love you can find someone who is healthy and please dont bring your children into a narcissist relationship that is so selffish and unfair to them it hurts my whole soul to think about it. I too hope you take a path that is filled with more happiness for you. He is a disbarred attorney who signed an amicable divorce decree but of course, has refused to pay a penny and has left us in a mess. After they are grown you can have whatever unhealthy or healhty relationship you want its your choice. We later talked about it and agreed that he would ask for a time out if he felt uncomfortable in an argument with me, so he would have time to let the anger out by running a view blocks for example. Perhaps hes just a 2 on the scale of 1-4, but hes still a 2, and it still is very difficult to live with. He actually even said,or yelled, the whole world is wrong there is nothing wrong with me. He has made threats to kill his biological daughter and her family. I started planning that when we meet for anything it would be in a public place. . Ahhh! I felt more distant. Ive learned a lot from this website, emails and posts. My husband never said he was sorry, no remorse, hasnt held a steady job 12 of 14 years. It is natural for narcissistic people to care for the things that they consider worthy, particularly when given a platform to do so. I told him that since he wouldnt go for help, he had to leave. In the end, I regret trying to make him feel consequences. It also focus the responsability, in oneself(mua). Ann, I hear ya on missing the good. Like you I dont want sex with him, but feel that to deny it too often is the same thing as withholding my love. Carry in a recliner with me after I asked you to please help me because it was outside and it was about to rain and you refusing, while sitting on the bed eating pizza. Im still trying to re-do the past with him and I still try to point things out that he said and did and I still try to explain my behaviors to his abusive remarks and all to no avail. Steve did get very enraged when I first started setting boundaries but as it was about what I would not live with for myself rather than me putting myself above him there was still room for him to come down out of his ivory tower and be with me once the corner he had painted himself into had become too uncomfortable. I do not need permission to talk to another adult about concerns that I have that affect my families well being. Thanks again for being so personal! Narcissists are afraid of being rejected or abandoned. So hard to get out of my marriage for many reasons. He does not respect anyone.. I say he suffers though of course he wont ever admit it. Mine was in the beginning, then less and then gone. Though I have not seen much online regarding this, I wonder if their bond with children is because these men are also very delicate and child likethat they dont understand their own emotions, and have no self reflection. I appreciate your concern but I can put you at easy because one thing that you are not aware of is that I am not and never have been afraid of him physically. He said he is done trying? You need firm boundaries that are real and you need a new repertoire of comeback lines that end non productive conversations before they even begin. Typical forms of narcissistic supply include sex, power, control, one-sided relationships with no accountability, compliments, subservience, obedience, admiration, and other requirements unique. Because I want him to relax and be himself. Matthew and I also go to marriage therapy once a week.this is the therapy that can be super hard, as my husband is such a great liar, charmer, manipulator, etc. (sorry my neglish is not very good) I realise now my first husband had some signs of npd. My advice would be to continue to work on YOU. And even that can be a prolonged struggle, given their profound dependence on their victims. My partners behaviour is exactly the way you describe. What he said was I love you but I cant live with you. movies and poetry on 'The NC Marriage', and 'The Love Safety Net'. So I have a question, I hope someone could give me their perspective. Thanks for all you do Kim! We are going to change this? So unless youve got some ideas I dont know what to do except to talk to our doctor and see if they have any ideas that might help., I cant be late for work again and so I am sorry I cant drop you off today., I dont know how to handle you when you get so angry at me, and so from now on I am going to need to get someone who knows know how to handle angry people (the police?) In this article I am not talking about rape, but about people who lie and put others down. He is well known in Our small community. annulled. Actions speak louder than words (-: However, I found that by justing leaving the situation, he was finally able to see it on his own, after life gave him hard knocks which took him off his pedestal and he realized ON HIS OWN when the same thing was done to him by another, how wrong his behavior was. It amazes me at how his brain works and like to think of it as a mass of short circuited wires that just dont connect to each other. He knows how to push my buttons to get me so fired up it turns into a raging fight. I so tried to help and get help for this man as I have empathy for him because I know he is very unhappy also, but I can do no more for him. Every crazy thing that has ever happened in our relationship that I could never understand was outlined in the characteristics and traits of a person with NPD. Giving him boundaries didnt help him and made him feel more alone. I really think your theory is wise! I moved a second time 6 months later, with my daughter, the dogs and the horses so we could rent a house big enough for all of us. But, we cant lose the business either. I get it you want me out because I am of no use to you anymore You are correct that there is no point in arguing but that does not mean he will never understand it was wrong. None did any good. I ask myself, how can I love a person so cruel? Reassuring him that I am not ending the relationship. Why do feel the need to write and give him this or, of the sort, letter? One thing that was powerful for me was to tell me friend about others loving me. I have learned to be a very calm person and have set up healthy and stern boundaries for myself. This woman was a serial liar who could turn on the tears at will and present herself as a very convincing victim. (2) Damaged my car I have been scared of him & Several times I have ran to my car, locking the doors to get away from him& when I refuse to leave safety of my car, he threatens to damage my car if I dont get out of it, which has resulted in: door Handel ripped off, entire windshield wiper broken off, Three big dents in my door, cracked windshield and him keying my car. If I dont look at him in his eyes he says it is rude. How different from what I normally get from my husband. This is painful stuff to deal with emotionally, spiritually and financially. I dont know how to sort out our finances and I cant see where our money is going and so I have opened a separate bank account and hired an accountant to come in and see if they can sort out the mess., I am worried about you, but I dont know how to help you (with your porn addiction) and I am scared that it is hurting our sex life and putting our marriage at risk. I was disappointed however, and stuck in my own issues, feeling like I gave and gave and wasnt getting much in the last couple of months we were living together. I use to say to myself, o my goodness, how in the world will we ever get to the stuff that makes us want to be with people. To reject a narcissist means you are rejecting the false self they have so carefully constructed to impress you. I have adopted his ways of thinking. Leaving a narcissist doesn't end with simply physically leaving, packing up your belongings, and building a new life. I heard her talk to him one time and knew he was suffering with a monster too. I also take a supplement called laminine (amino acids & FGF) that helps regulate my hormones and neurotransmitters which get out of whack with the roller coaster ride of living with a narcissist and it helps them as well with theses issues eggoflife.com/jseals. and managed to touch the place that connected us, he could see his roll in our relationship, apologize for what happened and be accountable. Thankfully I know that he didnt reject me because of who I am but discarded me because of who he is! I cant thank you enough for all you do. I immediately confronted that thought. Ive been involved with a total narcissist. Not to forget he announced that he wont adjust my status and will get me deported if I do not finally come around! There is no helping these Nar people, you can only preserve your own sanity, be strong and protect yourself. I understood and told you I would not come to home coming, so it would not make it uncomfortable for your kids since by your choice your kids and your ex-wife didnt know of our relationship. Yet, I still call his answering machine and leave a message or two most nights. Narcissists engage in hot-and-cold behavior and intermittent reinforcement to keep you hooked in the relationship.